I agree !Catholics must admit that these past 60yrs have been a disaster with Rome and the episcopacy pushing a new religion, an its not catholic. If the laity had some critical thinking skills and knew catholicism and studied it, the leadership would not have gotten away with is fake garbage put out as catholicism.
Accept your suffering. The laity has been the one calling out the ridiculous actions of the cardinals and bishops particularly with the resignation of Benedict but not the the renunciation of the papacy. We knew that Bergoglio was an antipope, we know that Cardinal Prevost is an antipope because of the egregious actions of the cardinals at the clnclave in 2025. But that same laity took Catholic action and validly elected Hildebrand as pope. Trust them that laity who validly elected according to papal law the successor to BXVI. The Holy Spirit has not left us orphans.
I choose to become a "Super Catholic". Mass, Communion, Confession, Adoration, First Friday, First Saturday, Rosary, Bible, Catechism. We were given the Holy Weapons, now let's use them. 🙏 ✝️ JMJ ❤️
Great Post. Very succinct. The line in the sand is drawn. The only issue is why the SPPX keeps looking to Rome. I know they knew. At least figured what the responses could and probably would be to the consecrations. They and other should now see the agenda and positions of this other church pretending to be Catholic. They need to just forge ahead. I wouldn’t even answer the imposters. Ignore them. They have a job to do: Preach and teach the Gospel, guide and protect their flock, give Holy Communion and the other sacraments and follow the Traditional Faith. And hopefully grow without those demons now in charge. And they certainly are demons. It is time to Declare Independence. The accusations of schism and excommunication be damned. To stay in their literally God forsaken church risks one’s soul.
The argument that confuses "the faithful" is that the Pope is on the chair of Peter, which means he has the keys of the kingdom, and we must at all cost bow to the imposter, because the only way to salvation is through the church.
I tried to "obey" the Vatican ll Pope, but my stomach can't stand the whole homosexual concept that they are made by God to be homosexual, etc.! And all of the other heresys surrounding the new synodal church. The idea of synodality is repulsive to me.
The line has been drawn and I cannot continue to partake in a Mass that makes me wonder how much influence the priest, the bishop etc. have on the consecration? The wording has been changed, thus, the consecration has been changed. I no longer believe I am receiving the body and blood of our Lord in the Novus Ordo Mass.
It is clear to me that the Catholic Church is in the hands of the evil one. I cannot participate in evil!
God has helped us. The Holy Spirit sent us faithful Catholics who validly elected the pope, following the null and void conclave of 2025. His name is Hildebrand. Read all about him at sedesapostolica.info.
I agree. In other replies of mine I told how I came back to the Church after many decades of apostasy which started in my late teens. When I finally attended an NO Mass I recognized absolutely nothing. At first I said maybe this was okay but the whole Protestant vibe was manifest and Communion in the hand was offensive to me. (I kept having the image of clapping seals catching small thrown fish). The hymns are Protestant, the prayers are ProtestantThere are various people running around. It’s always noisy like a social entertainment event. The beautiful Liturgy was gutted. I started searching for a TLM Mass. I found one 30+ miles away. My local NO is maybe 3. Because of the distance I can’t partake in that Parish’s social and Church life that easily like I would like too. At first, for convenience, I would sometimes do Mass in the NO if I had an issue with traveling or I was very late or something. I would do penance at the NO church too. I no longer do anything in the NO church because after several years I came to the conclusion that they weren’t the Catholic Church. Just some made up amalgam calling itself Catholic. I have very devout NO relatives including my sister (now deceased). Probably more fervent and devout than I but they live far away. So the conflict I would cause has not materialized yet and I hope it never does. And now the Synodal Church pushing Globalist themes and agendas. Climate change, sodomy, and unrestricted immigration (this week. The cause de jure changes). The hypocrisy, glorification of homosexuality and other former anathemas are all on the table. They have accelerated their devil’s platform.
Aye there is the rub, why is it that the SSPX keeps looking to Rome? Why is it that 60 years ago they perpetuated this farrago and disobeyed Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II. And and now why is it they pull the same stunt but this time before an antipope? Quoting the same arguments as then. One might suspect that the leadership in the SSPX and in the Vatican are replaying the same danse macabre while ignoring the elephant in the room: who is the pope? The irony is that in the eyes of the SSPX they are perpetuating the same playbook with the same disobedience. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. The same SSPX which accepted the antipope Bergoglio, discarding Benedict who rescinded the excommunications of JPII on the 4 original bishops consecrated in 1989, and in Summorum Pontificum freed the traditional latin mass from the conciliar knot. True Catholics could see Bergoglio for what he was: an imposter pope. They knew that the cardinals, once again, colluded in electing a fraud, violating two papal laws. Where was the Society speaking out during this farago of a conclave? You can keep giving the sacraments, catechism, Traditional Faith, but if you are not in communion with the true pope, then you deprive your followers of salvation. Pope Boniface VIII 'Unum Sanctum' We need to be in union with the pope to be saved.
I think the waffling over the years was because of the various and different leaders maybe of the SPPX. The only reasonable explanation in my ken. The real rub can these popes who say, teach, think and do heretical things be actual Catholic Popes. Many say not. Personally I will not follow one such as Prevost. I firmly believe he is a Communist, he did bow down to Pachamama, He has ignored the true underground Church in China but accepts their rubber stamped certified Communist Bishops, Sodomy, indifferentism, women ordination, married clergy everything is on the table in the Synodal church. At every turn he squashes Tradition (Vigano, Strickland, The Redemptorists, SPPX). He will continue to squeeze the Traditional Faithful until they conform or leave. I’m sure he does not care which. This mild mannered looking man is something else and not good. I’m not a Methodist but I highly recommend 5 short videos on YouTube by Pastor Roy (or Ray) Renfroe who explains what was happening in the UMC and why their faithful had to leave. I’m not endorsing their faith but the same issues plagued them as what we are going through almost to a Tee. Thanks:)
And, the pod-person image is totally appropriate. That's exactly what it feels like to talk with someone who has surrendered the faith, and their conscience, in the name of obedience.
Someone has exposed the truth about the countless errors of V-II. CMRI and Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer have both publicly named the fallen clergy to be what they are: Heretics and idolaters who are leading the blind to hell. Those two groups are the most faithful Catholics anywhere for they completely believe and profess everything taught by the Roman Catholic Church before the abomination of V-II. I thank God every day that He led me to CMRI, and I pray for them and for the SMHR daily.
I hope the wool is soon lifted from your eyes and you are cured of your Protestantism. You sound exactly like every Protestant that broke away over the ages. You are intellectually incapable of admitting it (non-contradiction) but your heart knows what you've done. Jesus still loves you of course, and He wants you back home.
People have accused me of many things, but never of being a protestant. You are clearly confused as I "broke away" from nothing, but adhered to the true Roman Catholic Church as Jesus established it, meaning I AM home! Deo gratias.
You converge with Protestants in your view that your personal, private judgment becomes the final arbiter of who has authority, which is self-defeating for a position that stakes everything on papal authority.
You'll likely say, "it's not me that judges these false popes, it's God", and again, you are taking God's justice and applying it as you see fit. Deny it all you want - it's not your place to say who is and isn't Pope.
You are either confused, ignorant, or a troll. Look up the 1917 Code of Canon Law, Canon 1325 which defines heresy for the Church. And don't bother quoting the 1983 Code as it has the same code but they moved it to another section.
Here endeth the lesson as you have now been informed by a true authority, Canon Law. I will not waste more time with you.
If you thought me ignorant and were serious about the faith, instructing me would be a spiritual work of mercy, not a waste of time. But since you've appealed to Canon Law as "a true authority" that you claim to respect, let's actually read it. 1917 c. 1325 §2 *describes* heresy; it imposes nothing. The penalty is c. 2314. And the 1983 Code did not merely relocate the text - c. 751 makes pertinacity explicit and c. 1364 attaches the censure, which is precisely the element your argument needs, and sidesteps. You've also passed over c. 2200 §2 and c. 2205, which govern imputability and the factors excusing from it.
None of which matters, because you've assumed the thing in dispute: that a private layman has the authority to determine who has incurred these penalties. He doesn't. The Church is responsible for judging on matters of heresy, and has never made the remotest movement toward confirming your privately held verdict. And on the specific question you're driving at, 1917 c. 1556 is dispositive: "Prima Sedes a nemine iudicatur."
And to preempt the obvious: this isn't ultramontanism. I hold the papacy has strict limits. The pope is a custodian of the deposit of faith, not its author, and a great deal of what's happened since the Council is genuinely criticizable. Resistance to bad governance is licit. What isn't licit is a private layman declaring the See vacant on account of a privately assumed finding of heresy. Those are different claims, and conflating them is your argument's only real move.
In the gospel of John, the discourse on the Good Shepherd, we read that Jesus is the Good Shepherd and his sheep hear his voice . Our Lord Himself taught this. It is not the same thing as when Protestants say we can all interpret the Scriptures for ourselves. I think in the current situation the true sheep know the voice of the Good Shepherd and will follow Him regardless of what canon law says.
You continue to adhere in your protestancy, because your clerics have taken it upon themselves to decide who is and is not the pope. That is exactly what Luther did.
Wow everything is a conspiracy against latin! But wait Demons indicated to Fr R that latin hurts more, I saw that YouTube short too, but what if they are lying? Because you know demons don't lie... What if they want you to be criticizing the Pope and break away from the church... Because they do, and in fact it is their JOB. This article could be written buy someone who has never been to mass, just plug extreme talking points from trad commentators. All the points are not new, extreme, and from sound mind delusional. The idea that latin is superior is newer than the NO. Honestly I bet in the 3rd century someone probably said Greek or Hebrew where better languages because the demons remembered being ordered by Christ... Anyways this is mad-trad bait, if you read this and are not a mad trad... Did it make you upset with the magisterium? If so maybe it is time to move on from these talking points. They are poison. The church is shedding its hippy/boomer cloths for things that make sense again... We don't need to leave the Church to have beauty.
This posting is correct saying it's not about Latin.... starting with Aetate Nostra, the eternal teachings of God were CONTRADICTED by VII. Something that is impossible. Unless you are not Catholic.
But even SSPX was willing to be in communion with a false pope in order to stay in a false religion.
There are two now, the Ape Church in Rome and the Catholic church in the catecombs. There is no middle ground, only self deception.
You are being forced to choose. Your eternal soul is at stake.
In 2028, the Papal interregnum will be 70 years old. The Katechon has been removed. The time seems ripe for the Synagogue of Satan to bring into the world the AntiChrist. These events must come to pass sooner or later. The compelling question at this point that remains is: Are we entering the “Age of Consolation” – A future period of renewal led by a Holy Pope and a Great Monarch, or the final “Age of Desolation”– The final apostasy, the appearance of Antichrist, and the end of the world as explained by the Venerable Holzhauser. “Holy Pope” is one of the most discussed elements of his prophecy. He foresaw a future pope who would: restore ecclesiastical discipline, eradicate major heresies, reform the clergy, unite Christians more fully under the Catholic Church, and preside over the Church’s greatest historical renewal before the coming of Antichrist.
The tells were crystal clear: a new altar and a new rite of sacrifice. Those can lead only to a new religion. Drill down on other actions in the 60s and 70s, and a new priesthood, new sacraments, and a new liturgical calendar appear.
I agree !Catholics must admit that these past 60yrs have been a disaster with Rome and the episcopacy pushing a new religion, an its not catholic. If the laity had some critical thinking skills and knew catholicism and studied it, the leadership would not have gotten away with is fake garbage put out as catholicism.
Accept your suffering. The laity has been the one calling out the ridiculous actions of the cardinals and bishops particularly with the resignation of Benedict but not the the renunciation of the papacy. We knew that Bergoglio was an antipope, we know that Cardinal Prevost is an antipope because of the egregious actions of the cardinals at the clnclave in 2025. But that same laity took Catholic action and validly elected Hildebrand as pope. Trust them that laity who validly elected according to papal law the successor to BXVI. The Holy Spirit has not left us orphans.
Excellent essay Laramie. Thank you.
I choose to become a "Super Catholic". Mass, Communion, Confession, Adoration, First Friday, First Saturday, Rosary, Bible, Catechism. We were given the Holy Weapons, now let's use them. 🙏 ✝️ JMJ ❤️
And who is the pope in this list?
Excellent post, Laramie. A strange synchronicity with my most recent post published almost at the same time. I wonder if that is a sign. (?)
Great Post. Very succinct. The line in the sand is drawn. The only issue is why the SPPX keeps looking to Rome. I know they knew. At least figured what the responses could and probably would be to the consecrations. They and other should now see the agenda and positions of this other church pretending to be Catholic. They need to just forge ahead. I wouldn’t even answer the imposters. Ignore them. They have a job to do: Preach and teach the Gospel, guide and protect their flock, give Holy Communion and the other sacraments and follow the Traditional Faith. And hopefully grow without those demons now in charge. And they certainly are demons. It is time to Declare Independence. The accusations of schism and excommunication be damned. To stay in their literally God forsaken church risks one’s soul.
The argument that confuses "the faithful" is that the Pope is on the chair of Peter, which means he has the keys of the kingdom, and we must at all cost bow to the imposter, because the only way to salvation is through the church.
I tried to "obey" the Vatican ll Pope, but my stomach can't stand the whole homosexual concept that they are made by God to be homosexual, etc.! And all of the other heresys surrounding the new synodal church. The idea of synodality is repulsive to me.
The line has been drawn and I cannot continue to partake in a Mass that makes me wonder how much influence the priest, the bishop etc. have on the consecration? The wording has been changed, thus, the consecration has been changed. I no longer believe I am receiving the body and blood of our Lord in the Novus Ordo Mass.
It is clear to me that the Catholic Church is in the hands of the evil one. I cannot participate in evil!
God help us!
God has helped us. The Holy Spirit sent us faithful Catholics who validly elected the pope, following the null and void conclave of 2025. His name is Hildebrand. Read all about him at sedesapostolica.info.
I agree. In other replies of mine I told how I came back to the Church after many decades of apostasy which started in my late teens. When I finally attended an NO Mass I recognized absolutely nothing. At first I said maybe this was okay but the whole Protestant vibe was manifest and Communion in the hand was offensive to me. (I kept having the image of clapping seals catching small thrown fish). The hymns are Protestant, the prayers are ProtestantThere are various people running around. It’s always noisy like a social entertainment event. The beautiful Liturgy was gutted. I started searching for a TLM Mass. I found one 30+ miles away. My local NO is maybe 3. Because of the distance I can’t partake in that Parish’s social and Church life that easily like I would like too. At first, for convenience, I would sometimes do Mass in the NO if I had an issue with traveling or I was very late or something. I would do penance at the NO church too. I no longer do anything in the NO church because after several years I came to the conclusion that they weren’t the Catholic Church. Just some made up amalgam calling itself Catholic. I have very devout NO relatives including my sister (now deceased). Probably more fervent and devout than I but they live far away. So the conflict I would cause has not materialized yet and I hope it never does. And now the Synodal Church pushing Globalist themes and agendas. Climate change, sodomy, and unrestricted immigration (this week. The cause de jure changes). The hypocrisy, glorification of homosexuality and other former anathemas are all on the table. They have accelerated their devil’s platform.
Aye there is the rub, why is it that the SSPX keeps looking to Rome? Why is it that 60 years ago they perpetuated this farrago and disobeyed Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II. And and now why is it they pull the same stunt but this time before an antipope? Quoting the same arguments as then. One might suspect that the leadership in the SSPX and in the Vatican are replaying the same danse macabre while ignoring the elephant in the room: who is the pope? The irony is that in the eyes of the SSPX they are perpetuating the same playbook with the same disobedience. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. The same SSPX which accepted the antipope Bergoglio, discarding Benedict who rescinded the excommunications of JPII on the 4 original bishops consecrated in 1989, and in Summorum Pontificum freed the traditional latin mass from the conciliar knot. True Catholics could see Bergoglio for what he was: an imposter pope. They knew that the cardinals, once again, colluded in electing a fraud, violating two papal laws. Where was the Society speaking out during this farago of a conclave? You can keep giving the sacraments, catechism, Traditional Faith, but if you are not in communion with the true pope, then you deprive your followers of salvation. Pope Boniface VIII 'Unum Sanctum' We need to be in union with the pope to be saved.
His name is Hildebrand. sedesapostolica.info
I think the waffling over the years was because of the various and different leaders maybe of the SPPX. The only reasonable explanation in my ken. The real rub can these popes who say, teach, think and do heretical things be actual Catholic Popes. Many say not. Personally I will not follow one such as Prevost. I firmly believe he is a Communist, he did bow down to Pachamama, He has ignored the true underground Church in China but accepts their rubber stamped certified Communist Bishops, Sodomy, indifferentism, women ordination, married clergy everything is on the table in the Synodal church. At every turn he squashes Tradition (Vigano, Strickland, The Redemptorists, SPPX). He will continue to squeeze the Traditional Faithful until they conform or leave. I’m sure he does not care which. This mild mannered looking man is something else and not good. I’m not a Methodist but I highly recommend 5 short videos on YouTube by Pastor Roy (or Ray) Renfroe who explains what was happening in the UMC and why their faithful had to leave. I’m not endorsing their faith but the same issues plagued them as what we are going through almost to a Tee. Thanks:)
Well done.
And, the pod-person image is totally appropriate. That's exactly what it feels like to talk with someone who has surrendered the faith, and their conscience, in the name of obedience.
Great observation, David. My 1st impression was of Donald Sutherland in a VanGough painting, instead of a movie (invasion, insanity,etc)
You mean Munch, but, yeah!
Someone has exposed the truth about the countless errors of V-II. CMRI and Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer have both publicly named the fallen clergy to be what they are: Heretics and idolaters who are leading the blind to hell. Those two groups are the most faithful Catholics anywhere for they completely believe and profess everything taught by the Roman Catholic Church before the abomination of V-II. I thank God every day that He led me to CMRI, and I pray for them and for the SMHR daily.
I hope the wool is soon lifted from your eyes and you are cured of your Protestantism. You sound exactly like every Protestant that broke away over the ages. You are intellectually incapable of admitting it (non-contradiction) but your heart knows what you've done. Jesus still loves you of course, and He wants you back home.
People have accused me of many things, but never of being a protestant. You are clearly confused as I "broke away" from nothing, but adhered to the true Roman Catholic Church as Jesus established it, meaning I AM home! Deo gratias.
You converge with Protestants in your view that your personal, private judgment becomes the final arbiter of who has authority, which is self-defeating for a position that stakes everything on papal authority.
You'll likely say, "it's not me that judges these false popes, it's God", and again, you are taking God's justice and applying it as you see fit. Deny it all you want - it's not your place to say who is and isn't Pope.
You are either confused, ignorant, or a troll. Look up the 1917 Code of Canon Law, Canon 1325 which defines heresy for the Church. And don't bother quoting the 1983 Code as it has the same code but they moved it to another section.
Here endeth the lesson as you have now been informed by a true authority, Canon Law. I will not waste more time with you.
If you thought me ignorant and were serious about the faith, instructing me would be a spiritual work of mercy, not a waste of time. But since you've appealed to Canon Law as "a true authority" that you claim to respect, let's actually read it. 1917 c. 1325 §2 *describes* heresy; it imposes nothing. The penalty is c. 2314. And the 1983 Code did not merely relocate the text - c. 751 makes pertinacity explicit and c. 1364 attaches the censure, which is precisely the element your argument needs, and sidesteps. You've also passed over c. 2200 §2 and c. 2205, which govern imputability and the factors excusing from it.
None of which matters, because you've assumed the thing in dispute: that a private layman has the authority to determine who has incurred these penalties. He doesn't. The Church is responsible for judging on matters of heresy, and has never made the remotest movement toward confirming your privately held verdict. And on the specific question you're driving at, 1917 c. 1556 is dispositive: "Prima Sedes a nemine iudicatur."
And to preempt the obvious: this isn't ultramontanism. I hold the papacy has strict limits. The pope is a custodian of the deposit of faith, not its author, and a great deal of what's happened since the Council is genuinely criticizable. Resistance to bad governance is licit. What isn't licit is a private layman declaring the See vacant on account of a privately assumed finding of heresy. Those are different claims, and conflating them is your argument's only real move.
In the gospel of John, the discourse on the Good Shepherd, we read that Jesus is the Good Shepherd and his sheep hear his voice . Our Lord Himself taught this. It is not the same thing as when Protestants say we can all interpret the Scriptures for ourselves. I think in the current situation the true sheep know the voice of the Good Shepherd and will follow Him regardless of what canon law says.
You continue to adhere in your protestancy, because your clerics have taken it upon themselves to decide who is and is not the pope. That is exactly what Luther did.
Wow everything is a conspiracy against latin! But wait Demons indicated to Fr R that latin hurts more, I saw that YouTube short too, but what if they are lying? Because you know demons don't lie... What if they want you to be criticizing the Pope and break away from the church... Because they do, and in fact it is their JOB. This article could be written buy someone who has never been to mass, just plug extreme talking points from trad commentators. All the points are not new, extreme, and from sound mind delusional. The idea that latin is superior is newer than the NO. Honestly I bet in the 3rd century someone probably said Greek or Hebrew where better languages because the demons remembered being ordered by Christ... Anyways this is mad-trad bait, if you read this and are not a mad trad... Did it make you upset with the magisterium? If so maybe it is time to move on from these talking points. They are poison. The church is shedding its hippy/boomer cloths for things that make sense again... We don't need to leave the Church to have beauty.
This posting is correct saying it's not about Latin.... starting with Aetate Nostra, the eternal teachings of God were CONTRADICTED by VII. Something that is impossible. Unless you are not Catholic.
But even SSPX was willing to be in communion with a false pope in order to stay in a false religion.
There are two now, the Ape Church in Rome and the Catholic church in the catecombs. There is no middle ground, only self deception.
You are being forced to choose. Your eternal soul is at stake.
In 2028, the Papal interregnum will be 70 years old. The Katechon has been removed. The time seems ripe for the Synagogue of Satan to bring into the world the AntiChrist. These events must come to pass sooner or later. The compelling question at this point that remains is: Are we entering the “Age of Consolation” – A future period of renewal led by a Holy Pope and a Great Monarch, or the final “Age of Desolation”– The final apostasy, the appearance of Antichrist, and the end of the world as explained by the Venerable Holzhauser. “Holy Pope” is one of the most discussed elements of his prophecy. He foresaw a future pope who would: restore ecclesiastical discipline, eradicate major heresies, reform the clergy, unite Christians more fully under the Catholic Church, and preside over the Church’s greatest historical renewal before the coming of Antichrist.
The tells were crystal clear: a new altar and a new rite of sacrifice. Those can lead only to a new religion. Drill down on other actions in the 60s and 70s, and a new priesthood, new sacraments, and a new liturgical calendar appear.
Nuts.